capnjonas (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

If you make the whole tailfins pivot instead of just the rudders, You'll have a manned missile. Add a tailplane to the Eurofighter as well. If you can dodge a missile, then you'll force the Raptor to close to dogfighting range! And there, the BK-27 or GSh-30-1 will pwn the Vulcan!

BlueBoy11035 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I WAS there 2006 in Berlin and i had seen it.... It was great, congratulations to the Pilot of this Mig 29, because he was 44 years old... Its every you a big event for me to go to ILA to Berlin. Dennis Federal Republic of Germany Paratrooper 1988 Luftwaffe German Air Force.

verdebusterAP (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

okay smartass answer me this Russia has built, MIG-35, MiG-1.44, SU-47, SU-37 for the Russian Airforce but not one entered service

ricardomacgiver29 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

BEATIFUL MANOUVRES THE MIG!

hardcoretyp123 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

The thing is, the MiG is the perfect architecture for dogfights, nearly as agile as the Eurofighter. With this 3d-Vectoring it is a hard enemy in WVR-fights, but MiG has always had uöltracrapradartechnique, so I dont know if the Russians did something on this... I'ld say the Eurofighter is the best multiroleinterceptor at the time. If the EU really is going to give it 3d-Vec within Tranche 3 its going to be the super-killer, there is no way to make a plane more agile...

hottunes007 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

lol the rapter will be out classed by the mig !!! lucky we are on the SAME side so

abeg2118 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

The F22 is a piece art USA makes the best airplanes.

ktm511 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

who ever says the Mig 29 can take on my Raptor is full of crap. though this is an awesome display from the mig, It cant touch what i've seen a raptor do. Let alone, the raptor is STEALTH!, MORE POWERFUL, VECTORED THRUST, LONGER RANGE, CAN FLY A MUCH HIGHER ALTITUDE. ITs FASTER, SLOOOOOOWERR and way more DEADLY.

ktm511 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

ahh no sir! you have no idea what your talking about. your russian air craft are OLD US designes. we let them have have it because we new they sucked. The raptor is untouchable. It has way way WAY more power and its stealth, let alone it has vectored thrust. Right now the raptor kill ratio agaisnt russian built aircraft (from red flag) is 24 to 1. thats sad, and your going to tell people that mig 29s can out do a raptor? ohh and the german aircraft are UK and US airplanes. think before u speak.

iFrank69 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Men, what a stupid discussion. The first flight of the 29 was in 1977. The F22 is from the 90's. That are two absolut different planes. BTW the Air Force bought in 1997 21 Migs for tests ! And that OVT version is a prototype. They did this with the Su 27 years ago...